Wednesday Mar 21, 2012 Calum Clark cited for bending Rob Hawkins' arm backwards

Calum Clark cited for bending Rob Hawkins' arm backwards
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Northampton Saints forward Calum Clark has been cited following an incident in the LV Cup Final (Anglo-Welsh) at Sixways on the weekend. Leicester Tigers hooker Rob Hawkins left the field with a broken arm after the incident.

It happened so quickly that the commentators failed to spot it and there weren’t any replays shown at the time. After seeing the injury though, Tigers boss Richard Cockerill was furious at Clark, who appeared to bend Hawkins arm in a direction opposite to his body, hyperextending the elbow in a move that looked more like an MMA ‘armbar’ than anything that should be seen on the rugby field. 

“If Calum Clark is deemed to have done it on purpose it’s pretty horrendous,” Cockerill told BBC Radio Leicester. “Something’s gone on there but we’ll let them [the citing commissioners] look at it and sort it out. It’s a petty poor act.

“I think it’s really out of order and in my opinion it’s as bad an injury as I’ve seen on a rugby field,”  he added, saying that Hawkins’ elbow has infact been fractured.

After the game Cockerill could be seen speaking quite firmly to Clark, with rumours suggesting that he told him he will be receiving a 12 month suspension for what he did.

It’s been confirmed that Clark has now been cited, the outcome of which should be a seriously hefty ban, unless he can come up with some reasoning for his actions. As for Hawkins, his season is over.

“He will miss the rest of the season and I am really disappointed for him. He has had a good run and was really keen to impress because he is trying to earn a new contract. Now that opportunity has been taken away from him,” said Cockerill.

You can view official highlights of the match here

What is your take on the incident, and how long do you think the suspension should be?

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  •  mise
    mise

    32 weeks so, is it? Me, I blame Stephen Ferris. He's the girl in the short skirt in this situation... come on folks - Ferris to blame for begin gouged and bitten? Nothing wrong with his eye?!? FFS! Maybe, just maybe, he's been playing like a complete animal (in a good way) when he's been fit and players are trying to take him out? 32 weeks for Clark does seem v weak. I'd also be interested in hearing a follow up on the N'thhampton query.

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  •  kecco
    kecco

    oops...already posted. sorry!

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  •  rugbydump
    rugbydump

    The hearing is tonight at 18:30

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  •  ando
    ando

    What's the latest on this? Thought it would have been ruled upon by now. Hope this thug gets a long time away from the game!

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  •  nathan
    nathan

    any chance RD can get the reverse angle up? it was broadcast on sky but i missed it!

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  •  nathan
    nathan

    Oh well Tuilagi punched Ashton last year so make's this incident all ok. Grow up you muppet! and i hate to break it to you, but not everybody commenting on here is a Tigers fan. But there still showing disgust in what Clark did. What does that tell you? It was truly sickening act.

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    Obviously depends on the severity of the blow to the head. As it was Ashton appeared to not suffer any ill effects. So in this case, I'd say a broken arm is worse. What about the blow to the head Ashton gave tuilagi when he pushed him, could have caused severe whiplash. and for the record, I'm not a tigers fan.

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    LOL!

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    I'd say they go in the same category. Granted bones will probably heal better than eyes (I would guess?) so yes gouging could leave someone blinded. But they are both hideous acts. I just feel this sort of thing is beyond what we expect. A punch is also designed to hurt someone, but for some reason we can let that slip, it happens, heat of the moment and a player strikes out. This on the other hand just seems to go passed blind reaction rage into something different. I just think punches are more instinctive (although I accept they are illegal), but arm bars and gouges are more thought out. I doubt he meant to break Hawkins arm, but I don't really see any other outcome of this sort of move. In all honesty, I don't care about a "quality player" label, he could be the best player in the world who everyone wants a piece of, but if he carries out this kind of shit then he is far from quality in my eyes. He is a liability, and a loose cannon and I do truly hope he gets banned for a LONG time, if not indefinitely.

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  •  aceno17
    aceno17

    There are issues at the ruck following the latest rule changes... Every team will try and delay the opposing team possession in order to allow them to regain a defensive formation. This is not just a Leicester issue it a rugby issue.... The yellow card is for continuing infringements ! Clark has committed this act of intentional harming another player, it shows knowledge and intention in what he was doing. This is not an attempt to remove the player from the ruck... but to remove him from the game ! Hawkins was in the wrong position (as indicated by the penalty awarded) he was also in a defenseless position ! Clark's act was a cowardly cheap shot which must be treated with a maximum length ban... As for comparing the Tuilagi / Ashton incident ??? This was 2 players going toe to toe ! I am not condoning Tuilagi's actions he was correctly banned for the punch, Ashton was the instigator and the 'red mist' response was inappropriate for sure. As for your comment "this is rugby", you truly are mistaken... This has no place in the game ! Nor in my opinion does Clark for a prolonged period of time.

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  •  aceno17
    aceno17

    Well said... I played and now coach this game ! It is idiots like this that tarnish the whole spirit of the game !

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  •  aceno17
    aceno17

    There are issues at the ruck following the latest rule changes... Every team will try and delay the opposing team possession in order to allow them to regain a defensive formation. This is not just a Leicester issue it a rugby issue.... The yellow card is for continuing infringements ! Clark has committed this act of intentional harming another player, it shows knowledge and intention in what he was doing. This is not an attempt to remove the player from the ruck... but to remove him from the game ! Hawkins was in the wrong position (as indicated by the penalty awarded) he was also in a defenseless position ! Clark's act was a cowardly cheap shot which must be treated with a maximum length ban... As for comparing the Tuilagi / Ashton incident ??? This was 2 players going toe to toe ! I am not condoning Tuilagi's actions he was correctly banned for the punch, Ashton was the instigator and the 'red mist' response was inappropriate for sure. As for your comment "this is rugby", you truly are mistaken... This has no place in the game ! Nor in my opinion does Clark for a prolonged period of time.

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    Intention to inflict harm = arm bar + hyper extension isn't going to inflict joy or unlock some hidden talent within Hawkins. It needs to be way outside the rules of the game = Last time I checked the laws don't condone arm bars or purposely hyper extending players limbs. Perhaps they are not written to include such actions but I think we (almost) all can accept this can easily land Clark in a criminal court. I for one hope it does! Nobody can do that without intention to harm. Oh and for the record you do NOT have to have intent to be convicted of GBH, then again I am not sure if a broken bone is classed as a wound regarding GBH, so it may even be ABH... either way...

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  •  flyingpepper
    flyingpepper

    very good.. maybe a bit too clever

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  •  reality
    reality

    Good troll-spotting there Stroudos. Normally there are dozens of rebuttals and arguments over silly comments like these ones. You're keeping this place respectable.

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    "I find it very difficult to credit that one player would deliberately set out to break or dislocate the bones of another" But blinding or attempting to damage the eyes of a player isn't difficult to believe? We have seen countless gouges over the years, this is just another example of the kind of crap that goes on when players go too far....

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  •  coops
    coops

    Firstly, superb name. BUT I think you're wrong re:Wood. Wood is lying on a different part of Hawkins' body, whilst Clark uses his body weight as a pivot on Clark's elbow. I accept the odd fight in a match. Even's Ashton's hair pulling was forgivable - it happened in the heat of a moment in a match. This however happened after the penalty had been given and was an attempt (whether reckless or with intent) to injure a player.

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  •  reality
    reality

    Actually I'd be happy if a bat or club was used. I don't buy all that 'retaliation is as bad as instigation' stuff. If he did something as callous and sickening as this, I wouldn't mind if he got a severe beating in retribution.

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    Well, if I was Hawkins, I would sue the sh*t out of the Northampton club, I would also get the police involved and I would quite happily lead a one handed round of applause when Calum Clark is told he has a lifetime ban. But of course we can all expect to hear that it was "reckless" and therefore enjoy the fact he gets a 10 month ban, reduced to 5 because of his recent "good record" then reduced a further 3 months because he pleaded guilty...

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callum_Clark There is that one as well, Calum spelled with 2 l's same guy though

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    Agreed! It is possibly the worst law change!

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    Hmm yeh, Ferris does always seem to get in these sort of situations. I mean I'm not excusing all of the reactions, but WHY is it Ferris all the time? I mean he got his arm stamped on by Grewcock for holding (fringe defender) Grewcocks leg in a ruck right on the try line. He was gouged twice in one match, he is now bitten... These are the only incidents I can recall off hand, but I doubt Hartley would go out of his way to bite someone. (then again maybe he would..) I think it can either be that Hartley was being "fishhooked" and bit down, OR Ferris just grabbed Hartley's head to twist him out the way, a finger went into Hartley's mouth and he decided to exact revenge. I look forward to hearing what the panel decides on.

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  •  tullowtank
    tullowtank

    from the video it APPEARS as if it could be intentional, that is not to say it was but it looks that way and whether he mean to break the players arm and not just merely hurt him is another question. This was by no means a simple tangling of bodies, Clark is clearly seen holding the Rob Hawkins' arm and pulling it back against itself. From a legal perspecitve, forgetting rugby for a moment, you could easily argue that it was easily foreseeable that the injury that resulted would occur. Clark therefore holds a duty of care to not injure the player. Clark grabbed Hawkins' arm, placed it in a dangerous position that could easily break his arm and continued to attempt to hurt the player or indeed break the bone. Personally I am devastated to see this on a rugby field and is by far in a way the worst action I have ever seen carried out by one player on another on any sports field, that I can think of ever seeing. He should be brought before the courts and charged with assault as there appears to be no other explanation for it. I do not wish to open up a precedent where any citing incident can go before a a court of law but this goes far and beyond a dangerous tip tackle or over agressive rucking, tackling and rucking are at least parts of the game. This was a callous, malicious attack and I believe he should be given a ban of numerous years. This is worse than drug cheats. Drug cheats take risks with their own body and risk their own carees. This is risking another innocent player's livlihood and I for one hope that his ban represents that. A life-time ban in this instance may be appropriate. Anything below two years would be an outrage, IF we can prove that he did intentially put the player in such a dangerous position. The evidence would appear to suggest that he did however. Callum Clark, I for one currently thing you are an awful human being.

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  •  stroudos
    stroudos

    Nice one

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  •  bnations
    bnations

    stroudous, nothing ever goes away on Wikipedia, it just gets versioned. Here's what got deleted -- note the rugbydump link in the references section. :-)Clark is a player who prides himself on fowl play. After many notable incidences of ill discipline, he was described as the most cowardly player to step onto a Rugby pitch. Clark, a sneaky devil, normally waits for his victims to be in a position in which they cannot defend themselves, at which point he unleashes devastating physical attacks. His well stocked armory includes moves such as headbutts and arm bars. Players and fans of the game have stated that they would be happy if he never stepped foot on a Rugby Union pitch again. This short extract was lovingly written by Rob Hawkins. [4]http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Calum_Clark&oldid=483325494

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  •  stroudos
    stroudos

    ***Troll alert***

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  •  stroudos
    stroudos

    One of you should have made a screengrab. It's obviously been changed again, what did it say?

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  •  stroudos
    stroudos

    Brilliantly put bnations. Totally agree!

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  •  stroudos
    stroudos

    ***Troll alert***

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  •  stroudos
    stroudos

    Calon Lan: he just seems so bloody calm when he's doing - yeah, that's what struck me about this incident more than anything. Casually breaks a bloke's arm without any apparent provocation, then nonchalantly strolls away as though he's just kicked the ball into touch. I think it's fair to describe this behaviour as psychopathic. The bloke needs to be given a life ban from rugby and a course of psychiatric treatment.

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  •  medicaluke
    medicaluke

    As a Saints fan I find this disgusting and deplorable. I totally agree with most of what has been said here and I think he will get off lightly with anything less than a year. I do not want players like this representing my club or my country.

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  •  nathan
    nathan

    lol, ok which one of you guys did that!

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  •  ando
    ando

    Hear hear!

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  •  sankeor
    sankeor

    Wow, people, look at his wikipedia page.

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  •  sankeor
    sankeor

    I would say evil-minded players certainly didn't wait for sbdy to teach them techniques. An arm-lock is pretty simple to realize, even if nobody taught you. The most important to me is to create laws firmly establishing heavy sanctions for arm locks and those kind of moves, and make sure everybody knows about the sanction. Actually imo wrestling techniques are useful for the lightest players to clean rucks, as long as it doesn't involve dangerous techniques. I have practiced judo for 12 years, and as I'm quite light myself I often use that knowledge to clean players nearly twice heavier off the rucks. No shit. But I don't see the point of breaking ppl's arms. That's just evil.

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  •  sankeor
    sankeor

    WTF !! This is the kind of arm lock we use in judo and jiu-jitsu, and that looks totally intentional to me ! More than being mean and in total opposition with the spirit of collective sports, this guy is merely stupid ! And when you know that David Attoub received a 70 week ban (490 days) for an imaginary eye gouge on Stephen Ferris (who had no problem with his eyes at all) few years ago... this guy deserves a 5 years ban ! lol

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  •  bnations
    bnations

    It's worth noting that this sort of "wrestle on the floor for the ball" spectacle is a direct result of outlawing proper rucking. When the rules encourage wrestling, you get wrestling tactics. Bring back the boot!

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    Is Lawes a thug? I haven't ever thought of him as a dirty player, I always thought he was a bit of a quieter player and sort of kept out of that area of the game...

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  •  kettlerugby
    kettlerugby

    So gutted as he is in the current EPS sqaud and a decent prospect for the future. Such a shame he had to sink to that level...

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    Yeh sorry, I get what you mean about them not being Lomu or Lomu-esque, but I suppose the same thing applies to players like Bakkies Botha, Schalk Burger etc. I too would have far more respect if players rejected team mates for thuggery like this, and I would WANT it to happen.

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  •  donkeyballs4000
    donkeyballs4000

    Looks like we have another scumbag in the Saints squad. I hope he gets the book thrown at him.

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  •  reality
    reality

    I see what you mean about Lomu, but the three players I mentioned are hardly Lomu! I suppose sometimes it's just hard to admit that someone you work with and play with every day is a piece of filth and that he should never play for you again. They think they'd lose face, whereas in reality I'd respect them a lot more.

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  •  stubby
    stubby

    Over in American football, the head coach of the New Orleans Saints received a 1 year suspension without pay (around $8M) for allowing a 'head hunting' program to be operated by the defensive coordinator. The coordinator is suspended indefinitely without pay. Players received cash bonuses up to $2500 for injuring opponents, with double payout in the playoffs and triple in the Super Bowl. Something to shoot for here. Clark is an absolute fuckwit.

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  •  irish_ape
    irish_ape

    Filthy prick, lifetime ban and charge for gbh. That type of play is not what rugby is about, make an example of the c**t....

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  •  aceno17
    aceno17

    Having watched what was an incredibly physical and passionate game of rugby played by two teams with great rivalry and lots of history... It is so sad to see such a blatant attempt to hurt an opposing player ! This great game demands respect for your opposition throughout the duration of the game and the social part following... This type of foul play is totally unacceptable and MUST be punished accordingly ! The old adage that "Rugby is a hooligans game played by Gentleman" surely does not include the type of behavior exhibited by Clark. He is a hooligan, and such behavior on the streets would require a lengthy prison sentence .... This should be reviewed as part of the RFU's Citing Policy ! I also agree with other comments about his ban beginning when Hawkins is healthy and eligible for the Tigers. Until then he should be suspended by The Saints without pay... I wish Hawkins a speedy recovery, especially as he is due for contract negotiations and a valued member of the prestigious Tigers Front Row !

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  •  bunn
    bunn

    Apparently Cockerill was saying to him that he'll never play for England

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  •  ando
    ando

    Just joined the dots about him being the same player from that Junior World Cup incident a few years back. He was a dirty, shameless player then, and from this incident he clearly still is. He is a disgrace, and not fit to play our beautiful game. I hope he gets a loooooong ban... God damn that looked painful...

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  •  kettlerugby
    kettlerugby

    didnt think Clarky was that kind of player....poor form. Especially as I am a tigers fan!

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  • I didn't realise it was the same bloke although I do remember watching it at the time. With the punching I can remember thinking what the hell did he think he was going to gain from doing that. Not excusing any punches at all but it was right in front of the officials and the NZ hooker (Sorry, don't know who he is) just looks at him wondering what the hell he's up to. Twenty minutes later and after getting a warning he starts head butting the opposition and again from me it's a reaction of "What the hell are you doing?" What perhaps makes it worse in all three offences is that he just seems so bloody calm when he's doing. Crazy.

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  •  paimoe
    paimoe

    That makes me wonder if he... really knows how to play rugby.

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    Ah, it is in the related videos... excuse my post..

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    I forgot about that actually, just did a youtube search and yes you're correct: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNgWg8kGMWk Looks like a nasty little weasel. Not sure where "will h" up there got it that Clark has a clean sheet...

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  •  pocandrog
    pocandrog

    Isn't the the lad who was headbutting a punching a guy in a maul v NZ not too long ago,he has a mean streak in him and should be banned for 24 months

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    "m March 20, 2012 5:12 pm It occurs at around 0.42, personally I don't find it malicious at all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sNtcnwe0qA" It was posted in the comment section on the "England power past Ireland at Twickenham" video by "m". Can't really see very much...Ferris' back is to the camera and he sort of rolls over appealing to the referee... but you can clearly see something happened in there, and if the referee saw a bite mark then that could be all the evidence they need.. I haven't seen the video again today but I think I recall Ferris may have been unscrewing Hartleys head, but don't quote me on that...

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    Sadly it is one of those things where clubs could not risk letting a "good" (not sure if he is or not) player go due to the danger of another team quickly snapping him up. I mean if you took someone like Lomu, let's say he was dirty and forever getting into trouble, a team would have to forgive him rather than fire him due to the fact he could end up representing the opposition in their next games. It needs a resounding hatred from all clubs and teams and FANS, to try and stamp this sort of stuff out.

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  •  guy
    guy

    Rougerie sewed Wasps over a tackle by Phil Greening, a tackle that damaged his throat. Now let's not start about his own recent antics....but the end result was that Wasps had to pay 60.000 pounds or Euros in damages. In my opinion: this is the only way to go here. Ban the player for a long, long time and make the club pay for the damages. The club can try to get it back from the player. But most importantly they and every other club will be forced to reconsider if there is a place for this kind of scum in your squad.

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  •  themull
    themull

    He started off simply trying to get his arm off the ball, but he kept on pulling at it after the whistle had gone and it was done with deliberate intent to cause injury... Big ban is needed, I reckon 9 months, if not 12.... Also Rugbydump, Dylan hartely has been cited for apparently biting Stephen Ferris last week..Would like to see if you could get footage of that up if possible..

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  • I've just watched this again and I just can't believe Clark's assault on Rob Hawkins. I tell you, if I was a Saint's supporter they would not get any money from me for shirts, tickets or anything else while he was still employed by them. I just wouldn't be willing to pay the wages of somebody like that. No players are perfect but this sort of behaviour has no place in rugby and I'll be disappointed if rugby continues to support him after this. I can't imagine that Cockerill is the sort of person who would want Clark in his squad after this. I really hope that Hawkins comes out of this OK, it's clearly not going to be this season but I'd really hate for it to be the end of his career.

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  •  pretzel
    pretzel

    When I read the title I was expecting something truly pathetic and another reason to have a good old bitch about the refereeing bodies. But watching it and seeing it, I hope there is a big ban. Hawkins is out for the rest of the season so there was nothing "weak" about the move. I think this sort of stuff needs to be banned for a long time. I would put this sort of stuff in the same category as gouging. Attoub got 72weeks?!? I wouldn't have any sort of gripes if the sentence was 72 weeks.

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  •  blew1
    blew1

    Life ban should be the only option here. Deliberate. With intent. Not sportsmanslike. Awful.

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  •  tuilagi129
    tuilagi129

    I agree. He should at least be banned the time that it takes to recover from this injury and even longer, because actions like that one have nothing to do with rugby.

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  •  reality
    reality

    I couldn't agree more. Clubs never seem to say, "We don't want a thug like that representing us and giving us a bad name". Clermont should have gotten rid of Jamie Cudmore years ago for all the bad press he gave them, Stade Francais should have done the same with Dupuy after his double-gouge on Ferris, and Northampton should do it here with Clark.

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  •  chrishunter100100
    chrishunter100100

    absolutely vile, should be banned for a very lengthy time, at a minimum 6 months, possibly a year or more. disgusting and taking the aggressive and contact side of this amazing sport way too far!

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  • That's disgusting, you do see things in a full contact sport such as rugby which at times are bad but that was shocking. Never mind a ban, I can' understand why any team would even consider giving him a job after that.

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  •  patrick
    patrick

    absolutely disgusting. doesnt deserve to take to the field at all, let alone represent england as ive heard some suggest recently

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  • totally agree. Should have to be out the game for at least the length of time that the injury he caused leads to.

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  •  rikkah
    rikkah

    I'd say a 12 month ban isn't enough, ban this man for life!

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  •  reality
    reality

    Why did Cockerill shake his hand at the end? He should have spat on the piece of sh**.

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  •  coal_face
    coal_face

    If this had been caught on CCTV, in a town centre, then Clark would be arrested and charged with GBH. What a cowardly act, and what an appalling example to set our youngsters! Considering the guy should have a criminal record, then he can count himself lucky, if he only gets a 12 month ban!

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  •  buzzkillington
    buzzkillington

    It was only a matter of time before Rugby teams started employing wrestling coaches and tactics, as has been the case in League for years now. This needs to be stamped out immediately, because unlike in League where you can't hide, in Rugby players will be able to use these tactics in chaotic rucks without being found out. Would we know about Clarks actions if not for the fact he was successful in breaking Hawkins' arm? A hard line approach is needed before this is common place like in League with the "chicken wing", "crusher", "chin strap", "grapple tackle", "prowler" or the "rolling pin". It's about time these MMA tactics get some spotlight. I would say at least a year for Clark.

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  •  yster7
    yster7

    This idiot - clark, shouldn't be allowed today this beautiful game! I remember this jerk flying into a loose mall during junior world cup, headbutting one of the Baby Blacks. He's a disgrace and I hope he gets his soon!!

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  •  nathan
    nathan

    This lad doesn't have the right mentality for playing rugby, he seems to lose it to0 easily (like the head butts in front of the ref at the U20 World Championships). Give him a year's ban, at least he might realise how much he misses playing and get his act together. Feel so sorry for Hawkins, just starting to string some good performances together in the hope for a contract renewal and this happens.

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  •  colombes
    colombes

    waw it must really hurts! after rewatching the video, it looks quite intentional and vicious don't know the ban for this type of "bending" but the question of bans equal to the injury length can be a solution. it recalls me another type of vicious behaviour when tacklers deliberatly twist the ankle of their opponent after a tackle

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  •  bnations
    bnations

    That came out wrong. He should be banned until Hawkins heals and then some.

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  •  bnations
    bnations

    If there is any justice, his ban won't begin until Hawkins returns for his first game. As it is, he'll probably be back on the field before his victim is even healed. Disgraceful.

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