Monday Feb 26, 2018

Ryan Wilson may be in big trouble after citing commissioner intervention

Ryan Wilson may be in big trouble after citing commissioner intervention
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Scotland backrower Ryan Wilson has been cited following Saturday’s historic Calcutta Cup win over England at Murrayfield. Wilson was involved in the tunnel scuffle with Owen Farrell prior to kick-off, but this citing is for a different incident. 

Scotland won the match, beating England for the first time in ten years, but as could be expected, there was plenty of feeling out there. 

Things boiled over slightly just before the break, when England number eight Nathan Hughes and Wilson got to grips with one another. 

Wilson appeared to drag his fingers over the face of Hughes, but referee Nigel Owens at the time sorted out with an old fashioned chat and quick telling off. 

He has been cited for ‘an alleged act of foul play’ by the independent Citing Commissioner appointed by World Rugby. The alleged offence is for contact with the eye area of an opponent (Law 9.12). 

A disciplinary hearing will take place before a Six Nations Disciplinary Committee on Wednesday.

credit: BBC
note: video is UK only 

32 Comments

  •  oldflyhalf
    oldflyhalf

    ...no, it's brit!??? ...from the Polynesian islands. :) ...Perfidious Albion.

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  •  drg
    drg

    Thanks for the video im1.... On that, penalty max...

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  •  drg
    drg

    Le hook, line and sinker... Judging by the state of affairs in the EU I'd be surprised if Brexit is the only exit from the fruity club... Either way, lighten up, it's RD not YouTube...

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  •  oliver
    oliver

    See? There you go again, you just can't help it. I made a derogatory comment about your intellect. And you reply with a derogatory comment about my nationality. Oh well....Enjoy Brexit then, have fun!

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  •  felipeg
    felipeg

    No sanction after all. Let's move on!

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  •  im1
    im1

    My comment wasn't meant to be taken seriously, but with any rugbydump comments section, once the number of comments gets over 20 there needs to be a derogatory comment about French discipline. I wouldn't expect a Frenchmen to understand humour though (however poorly attempted)

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  •  im1
    im1

    39 mins into this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKvm6MXdejE

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  •  drg
    drg

    Didn't read about fractured eye socket.. not to say he didn't deserve being punished, but it sounds like it was a one punch thing after a few words about HIS behaviour (which of course acts against him). As for the stamp, I've looked myself and also can't find footage, the words accompanying the incident say he was given a yellow and suggest that he was angered by the Samoan holding his boot... Depending on which side of the 9 you're on, you'd say thats a deserved reaction to being held.. You've definitely highlighted that he is probably no angel, but he's hardly the villain of the game, so much so that I can't see how one should take into account his indescretions off the pitch and even in the pitch if the latest incident was 2-3 years ago... Anyway I guess there will always be incidents which are nasty to some and not so bad to others and vice versa..

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  •  thehaggis
    thehaggis

    If this is punished by a ban then the rugby world has lost its head. Absolute disgrace, he's being held by the throat by a massive 18 stone Fijian, what's he meant to do?!

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  •  im1
    im1

    He did fracture the other guys eye socket... On field, his stamp against Samoa in the 2015 was unbelievably not red carded or cited. Can't find the footage, but it was a straightforward red. Not saying you specifically would say, had it been Hartley it would have been intentional. Of course, if had been a Frenchman it would have been intentional, but then probably more obvious as they are well practised at it and would have done a much better job

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  •  drg
    drg

    Fortunately not, but then I'm a little older than Wilson and trouble has stopped looking for me for quite a while now so I tend not to have many altercations, plus I've grown up enough to avoid reacting in certain ways to irritants.. ...I come from a time and a location where a bar brawl would at most get you banned from that bar for a couple weeks... A less namby pamby era if you will... ...then again, these days you're more likely to get stabbed with a knife or a broken bottle so who knows... And for the record no, I wouldn't say this was a deliberate attempt to gouge if it was Hartley, Marlar, Burger, Bakkies, or even any dear old Frenchman... If this was a proper fight and you were attempting to gouge someone, you're not going to lead with your pinky finger... Wilson could have turned his hand to grab Hughes face, that way using first two fingers to.either grab at Hughes far eye (left eye) or near eye with third and pinky grabbing at the far eye... As for the actual batman incident, from what I gather, Wilson was only charged for a punch and assualt due to dragging another guy to the ground.. words were exchanged before each incident, however unprovoking you or I deem words to be, they still happened...and if I've read correctly this happened 4-5 years ago... Hardly has form, unless I'm unaware of the rest of his criminal exploits..

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  •  im1
    im1

    just saying that I wouldn't put it past him to have been trying to gouge as he has proven himself as a bit of a scumabag. If Hartley or Marler had done this, there would be a large number of commentators on this site claiming that it was an intentional gouging attempt. And that "Halloween thing" was a criminal conviction for assault. I hope you haven't got a similar record. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/rugby/scotland-rugby-star-ryan-wilson-5104820.amp

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  •  drg
    drg

    Previous for what? The Halloween thing? Come off it...if I ever get hauled infront of a disciplinary bunch, I hope to God they don't take into account my past off field 'out drinking' discipline.... I'd be totally fooked!

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  •  filthypete
    filthypete

    I think you'll find that previous is taking into account on the findings of the hearing, not on whether to cite for an action. By your logic only the same people should be repetitively cited!!! Anyway it's a terrible citing.

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  •  drg
    drg

    Is Hughes gay? Could there be an argument that Wilson was acting in a homophobic manner by not allowing the kiss?

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  •  eddie-g
    eddie-g

    In slow-motion, as always, this looks worse than it is in reality. Wilson is pinned down, and he pushes away at Hughes' face to get away. That's all you can say here. His fingers may have made contact with his eyes, but in real-time, the contact was so brief that there is absolutely no way you could say it was intentional and not in a million years was it a gouge. You want to punish this, you'll soon be down the rabbit-hole and punishing all incidental contact. Owens dealt with this the right way at the time, no need for any further sanction.

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  •  45678
    45678

    Seems to be holding him by the chin not the throat. Could argue he was lining him for a little kiss

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  •  im1
    im1

    what could Hughes be cited for though? Holding another player by the throat is not a red card offence. Making contact with the eye area is. Just depends on how wide the definition of 'eye area' is.

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  •  oliver
    oliver

    No smoke without fire on both sides: that's what I'm saying. But only Wilson is cited......

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  •  colombes
    colombes

    #prayfordupuy https://gph.is/295RiKL

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  •  im1
    im1

    Wilson has previous though....... both on and off the field.

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  • i really cant see anything coming from this, he's getting held down by the throat and he pushes up against anything he can touch of the opposite player.... didnt even touch his eyes

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  •  drg
    drg

    #prayforthefrenchteams

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  •  felipeg
    felipeg

    The guy is merely defending himself. There seems to be an unvolontary contact with the eyes. Hughes tries to escape this contact. Wilson then figures out and pulls away immediately. Hughes decides the best course of action is to reinforce is grip on Wilson's throat. Sanction both or none.

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  •  aj3
    aj3

    You cant see his eyes/face at the point of the alleged eye contact, but his face looks pretty screweed up like he cant really see whats happening due to the grip on his throat. Like the comments above - I dont think he makes contact either - certainly no complaint from Nathan Hughes - gouging is usually pointed out by the victim - or seems to be these days. All of that said - I can see him getting sanctioned for it.

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  •  colombes
    colombes

    Rugby 2018: A scratch on the cheek becomes a gouge. (it escalated quickly)

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  •  oliver
    oliver

    agreed. It'd be pretty unfair if he is punished but not Hughes.

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  •  thefrontrow
    thefrontrow

    It almost looks like he realises and intentionally pulls away from the eyes, but that's probably just the slow-mo effect. It's pretty filthy to grab someone by the throat like that though.

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  •  mise
    mise

    run = rub

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  •  mise
    mise

    Agreed also - the first act of aggression outside of the laws is the throat grip! Hopefully it'll not lead to a banning. (It was also a gentle side of the face run really, wasn't it?)

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  •  drg
    drg

    Agreed with nhunter... someone has you by the throat, perhaps trying to push their face away is now deemed excessive... Bullshit call imo! ...same as the Farrell thing, both nothing events...

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  •  nhunter
    nhunter

    Citing commissioner is way out of line here. Wilson's fingers go nowhere near the eye, and he's trying to defend himself from a man standing over him, gripping his throat. Maybe as the aggressor is English he should just lay there and take it?

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