Wednesday Mar 28, 2018

Malouf high shot on Wade met 'red card threshold' according to panel

Malouf high shot on Wade met 'red card threshold' according to panel
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Leicester Tigers replacement back Nicholas Malouf has been sanctioned for the high tackle he made on Christian Made during Sunday’s Aviva Premiership contest. He was cited then last night received the bad news. 

Malouf was only on the field because Wade himself had knocked out winger Jonny May after a strong carry. May was out cold, so left the field, with Malouf his replacement. 

Ten minutes later, Malouf came in for the tackle as Wade attempted to spread the ball wide, but made contact with the Wasps flyer’s head as he turned into the tackle. 

After pleading guilty to the charge, an independant disciplinary panel handed down a three-week suspension, meaning he is only free to play again on 17 April 2018. 

“The player accepted that he had committed an act of foul play which passed the red card test,” panel chair John Brennan said. 

“The panel found that the player had struck the Wasps player’s head. This required a mid-range entry point in accordance with the sanction table.

“Given the player’s guilty plea and his clean disciplinary record the panel allowed full mitigation of 50%. He was suspended for a period of three weeks.”

The challenge appeared to be at chest height but with Wade moving down slightly and Malouf fairly unsighted, his shoulder made contact with Wade’s face or chin. Therefore, he was fortunate to not be red carded on the day, as the TMO and referee took a fairly lenient stance. 

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  •  10stonenumber10
    10stonenumber10

    It reminds me of another Wasps/Leicester hit. http://www.rugbydump.com/2007/05/118/josh-lewsey-hit-on-frank-murphy

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  •  drg
    drg

    It's not ridiculous at all, but saying that was the reason they lost doesn't say much for Wasps...

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  •  rememberthemer
    rememberthemer

    That's a dishonest bit of frame selection there.

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  •  dancarter
    dancarter

    If it was a game Wasps lost by a single point then I don't think it's ridiculous to suggest that a red card in the 1st half would have changed the outcome.

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  •  maldarkangel
    maldarkangel

    Meh of all the things it was def direct contact to the head. Whats pathetic is that he looked away from the tackle so he had no idea what he was hitting. However this game had so many amazing moments! this was a minor factor in the game. There were at least 3 amazing try saving tackles. some great breaks and wills mess up was hilarious!

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  •  drg
    drg

    HH, I don't disagree with your point regarding high hits, but the problem I have is that we've always had "high tackles"... It's not a new thing, the understanding around it is now new. In the past if you hit the head straight on, it's a high tackle, if you hit and then rode up it wasn't a high tackle. They realised this was not good enough, so they move the margins, now if you ride up it's still a high tackle. Again, I'm not really phased by this, but now they've backed themselves into corners... "Seat belt tackles" something which rarely applies any force to the head is now "dangerous" just because "law says head = red" (or yellow or penalty etc). We now see players diving for the try line in an "untackleable" position... So do we need to change the way tries are scored now as a result? Perhaps not, but it does beg the question of how to police that part into safety? Wade clocked May on the chin, whilst I think that was.bad technique by May, do we have a case to look at for how players defend themselves? Is the forearm too dangerous? I just feel that as Ben Wright has written, this comes from intervention, the more that is policed, the more that is expected to be policed. If you get rid of the most dangerous aspect of the game, the next dangerous thing becomes the most dangerous, so on so forth. All in all, though, I agree about care for players heads, I just don't see a realistic future in going down that route. Look at boxing etc, certain aspects are kind of core.to the sport, punching someone's face is part of it. Are we going to soon look at removing rugby's version? (Whatever that is?)

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  •  heavyhooker
    heavyhooker

    DrG, I agree with your statement of rugby being inherently dangerous (injury prone) due to just simple play, but with that in mind, the laws and the refs are there to make sure that certain actions by players are not adding to these incidental injures by trying to discourage reckless tackles and poor techniques that cause further injuries. In other words, those actions that are not accidental (knees on head, head on head, head on ground.) What I disagree with st your after care comment. What we are finding out is that every head hit is a demerit point that cannot be rectified - the damage is done to the brain. So the refs and the laws, and the citing, should be such that the truly accidental are not compounded by the reckless. This tackle was reckless and stupid - lead with the shoulder at head height. There is nothing inherently accidental about this hit. Had the hit been proper and the head hits the ground or someones knee, then that is incidental. This hit did some brain damage, not a concussion, but it did damage and that is what the citing process should be getting across to players. Take this hit down a foot and hit him square in the chest and knock the ball (had he still had it) and the wind out of him, but don't hit high.

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  •  pgrugby
    pgrugby

    I hope not!!! That would probably lead to a good 10 minutes of "Italian Soccer Practice" at the end of each training session... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ukFUEI5qz8

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  •  im1
    im1

    just to clarify on the May incident, Wade did nothing wrong. The picture shows contact with the arm carrying the ball and that is allowed. If you point is that, maybe there should be more emphasis on the outcome of the incident rather than just the inputs to it, then that is something that has been debated by rugby dump's finest for a long time. exactly right on the inconsistency/level of intervention balance. I'd be happy for the Malouf incident to just be a yellow card, but the laws are the law and the integrity of the game is as important of the game itself. The replay is clearly a red card based on the current laws. LP would not have ruined the game if he sent Malouf off. Malouf would be the one who ruined it as he infringed on the laws. If you disagree with the laws (which in this case I do) then its fair to say its the authorities ruining the game. Just scroll down on recent posts and you will see far worse incidents only getting yellows, even when its gone to a citing

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  •  drg
    drg

    I agree this was a bad call.... but "it probably cost Wasps the match"... as in Wasps couldn't win against 15? I'd suggest going in to a game with a game plan of "we'll win when they get reduced to 14" isn't a great plan...

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  •  drg
    drg

    I agree with you Ben to some degree, I've got two personalities now as a result, one that looks at the laws today and plays devils advocate and bitches about refereeing, and one that dreams of the "old game" (about 8 years ago ish).... This decision in todays game is abysmal, looks like bicep hits shoulder and shoulder hits head... it's a red, easy decision in my book.. In the game which I find is slipping away more and more, this was probably a yellow at worst, penalty at least probably.. I disagree with your last point regarding the game being important. Well, sort of... it is important but I have zero issues with a referee dishing a red card for the very first tackle of any cup final match, let alone a league match, as long as the crime warrants the punishment. But all in all, you're right regarding intervention, we're forcing ourselves into a smaller and smaller corner by trying to make an inherently dangerous game, "safe"... We have HIA assessments, which I have zero issue with, but rather than HIA's being done and the player being put to rest for a few weeks, there is this large drive to avoid head injuries full stop - why not improve the aftercare for head injuries - longer lay offs, stringent testing etc. So many head injuries in games these days tend to be from players falling on knees, or tackling badly, or heads hitting heads... all stuff that cannot possibly be policed out of the game - but they try!

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  •  dancarter
    dancarter

    I don't think that picture does it justice compared to watching replays of the whole event. Wade is carrying the ball in that hand, he lifts his arms up and into his body to bump off May but his arms remain tucked into his body rather than being outstretched like a proper hand off. The Faosiliva red card is more of a hand off that clearly leads with the elbow, whereas Wade's wasn't. I think it is bad tackling technique from May more than anything. You can watch the highlights of the match including this incident on BT's website, the Wade-May clash happens around 5:45: http://sport.bt.com/video/extended-highlights-leicester-tigers-16-15-wasps-91364260380015

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  •  dancarter
    dancarter

    The game is important, but what is even more important is the well being of the players. The referee's primary role is to protect the players and he failed in that role here. Referees can't neglect this duty out of a fear that they might spoil the game. Ultimately the players are the ones responsible for ensuring a match remains 15 vs 15 by not committing any serious acts of foul play.

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  •  dancarter
    dancarter

    This was a bad mistake and it probably cost Wasps the match. I was amazed that both the referee and the TMO settled on a yellow after agreeing the tackle started on the shoulder and rode up. Malouf's arm hits Wade directly on the jaw, it doesn't start off lower and then ride up. Definite red card.

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  •  benwrightfromleicester
    benwrightfromleicester

    Inconsistency is only a problem when you have too much intervention. There is now too much refereeing on the field and too much off the field. If we had less of both, we'd take inconsistency as part of the game. The more you have of anything, the more room for error. The fact is Wade got up and was fine. There was no need for an on field review. (I get the duty of care and everything, but still - Wade was fine. Jonny May was not incidentally, but that's another story and Wade didn't get cited.) LP would have ruined the game if Malouf had been red carded for that. And it's the game that's important.

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  •  im1
    im1

    the problem is the complete inconsistency between and within competitions and between on-field decisions and those made during the citing process. how can a citing panel deem this a red, yet LP can't? Its clear from the replay the initial contact was with the head.

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  •  benwrightfromleicester
    benwrightfromleicester

    An amazing game that went to the wire and with one of the best cover tackles you'll ever see. But what are we talking about? Ref decisions and citing commissioners. We don't talk enough about the players and the games. We talk too much about refereeing and citings. Rugby is in danger of becoming like a version of F1 where the drivers keep getting stopped for speeding. Can we talk about Matt Tait's heroics please?

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  •  moo
    moo

    Didn't see the Wade vs May incident. But from that photo, it looks like the ball-carrying arm? So not much wrong with that, unless he hit him with the other forearm as well?

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  •  tigerinbirmingham
    tigerinbirmingham

    A lot of questions being asked about Wade's forearm hand off into Jonny May's head in the same game - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZJO1EEWsAEiCKS.jpg Same ref gave a red for Alafoti Faosiliva - http://www.englandrugby.com/governance/discipline/video/alafoti-faosiliva-worcester-warriors-red-card/

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