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Chris Ashton shouts 'push it' as Nick Evans attempts conversion kick

Chris Ashton shouts 'push it' as Nick Evans attempts conversion kick
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Saracens winger Chris Ashton escaped a misconduct charge earlier this week after he had attempted to put off Harlequins flyhalf Nick Evans during the Premiership Semi Final on Saturday. Ashton shouted ‘push it’ as Evans attemped a conversion kick.

Harlequins fullback Mike Brown scored a try just before halftime and as Evans was about to attempt the conversion, foot about to strike the ball, Ashton shouted at him in an attempt to distract him.

Evans slotted the kick and the players went into the tunnel for halftime, but it caused a bit of a melee and some England teammates took him aside to have a word. Whether it was it was frustration boiling over or just intended as banter, Quins weren’t amused, and neither were the RFU.

They reviewed the incident and released a statement regarding respect being one of the core values of Rugby. The RFU Head of Discipline, Gerard McEvilly, spoke to Ashton about the incident, his responsibilities towards the game and his future conduct. A written warning was set to follow.

Had Evans missed the kick, he would more than likely have had another attempt at it and perhaps if it weren’t halftime, referee Wayne Barnes may have even considered restarting with a penalty on the halfway line. As it was, Ashton appeared to get a telling off by some of the Quins players.

“Humility is up on the walls here and around the stadium, and honesty,” said Harlequins coach Conor O’Shea post match. “It wasn’t part of what you would expect someone to do, but we leave it. They are worthy finalists, worthy winners. Move on.”

42 Comments

  • _thepundit
    3:24 AM 30/07/2014

    How can I put it? Shouting makes you look like a numb nut, and running, it tests your athletic abilities, not being a lazy bastard, well, like the payer in question. Rather look like a fool trying to block the conversion than showing your disrespect towards a great game.

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  • taineuk
    8:09 PM 28/07/2014

    Ashton is a scrote and far from class. Why Lancaster persisted with the twat for so long when there are much better wingers in the premiership is beyond me.

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  • taineuk
    8:06 PM 28/07/2014

    Bro, if you don't know the rules, why comment on them?

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  • taineuk
    8:05 PM 28/07/2014

    Dumb comparison really as you're allowed to call for a pass from the opposition, where as, you're not allowed to yell at an opposing place kicker. BIG difference.

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  • drg
    11:10 AM 23/05/2014

    I don't think that is quite the case. As you said, cheating has gone on since the dawn of time - legend (or truth) claims that William Webb Ellis 'cheated' in a game of football and thus created rugby... The thing is, look at some of the biggest legal tackles in the game, we are ALLOWED to do that stuff to each other, so when someone turns round and there is a bit of fistycuffs, it all gets thrown under the category of - "Well it's a tough game, things are bound to boil over".. Unfortunately shouting "Push it" is not as a direct result of a perceived personal injustice, what it is however, appears to be just another one of those footballer characteristics creeping into the game. So yes, yelling out 'push it' and getting in a scrap with someone are both 'cheating' but although one is physically more harmful than the other, it is also more understandable when you get two guys who possess a set of testicles.. screaming like a banshees' petulant child on the other hand is a tad more pathetic and unacceptable..

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  • gonzoman
    2:56 PM 22/05/2014

    He's a thug. Nothing clever about him!

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  • colombes
    12:53 PM 22/05/2014

    a surrealist poet, though :)

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  • 45678
    10:28 AM 22/05/2014

    well said. cheating has gone on since the dawn of time, some get a pat on the back and are called great - how many opensides get away with murder at the breakdown? how many great props collapse a scrum when its in trouble? are they cheats - not if they don't get caught apparently! the problem with Ashton is that he wears his working class chav-ness on his sleeve and it doesn't fit with rugby's gentlemanly middle class sensibilities. it was inevitable that rugby wouldn't just be for public school boys when the game went professional, but cheating was probably more prevalent in the amateur days, so there is a large amount of hypocrisy based on personalities. Ashton is still a dick however

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  • drg
    10:23 AM 22/05/2014

    Put it this way. If it was any other player to shout 'Push it' - I'd still think it was a dickish thing to do... The fact it was Ashton is just the cherry on the top...

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  • drg
    10:20 AM 22/05/2014

    XD And Bakkies Botha?

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  • drg
    10:19 AM 22/05/2014

    I think I recall Jonny Wilkinson talking about the whole thing once. I believe at that time in his career he said he found it easier to take a kick when there was noise because he visualised the posts as a laughing mouth or something like that... He said it was more unnerving when the crowd remained silent. - not 100% on all that but it rings a bell..

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  • danknapp
    6:14 AM 22/05/2014

    Ignoring the fact that I disagree with virtually everything you said, I like the fact that your post resembles poetry. Just wanted to thank you for your postmodern layout and liberal use of the enter key.

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  • danknapp
    6:13 AM 22/05/2014

    Wolonel, I'm sorry to jump in, but I think Ashton is an ARSETHREE-QUARTERS and Farrell is an ARSEHALF. Someone like Hartley is an ARSEWHOLE. Happy to help.

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  • danknapp
    6:11 AM 22/05/2014

    I was at Twickenham with a school group and a small handful of kids started whistling during a penalty kick. Before any member of staff could get to them, a stranger in front of them (all 6'6" of him) turned around and said "We don't do that here." in a thick Northern accent. They didn't do it again. We, the staff, had a word as well but they'd learned their lesson. Yes, some people do shout and whistle during kicks, but thankfully those individuals are reasonably few and far between. The absolute norm is 99% of spectators watching quietly and applauding if it goes over.

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  • danknapp
    6:07 AM 22/05/2014

    Well, the fact that his voice was the only one in the whole stadium says it all.

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  • danknapp
    6:05 AM 22/05/2014

    Dear God, I'm worried I'm about to go there, but in Association Football (as I believe the devotees of the game call it) you commit a professional foul for shouting 'mine' without shouting your name...

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  • cdmj
    5:55 AM 22/05/2014

    Ashton is a dick and needs to stop behaving like it. If he concentrates on playing rugby and with respect as it should be played then he could be a decent player, he needs to work on his defence though he always seems lost. Same with Farrell what a complete dick...again concentrate on the game not being an idiot and he could be one of the greats. they are both arrogant and need to have respect for all opposition. Suarez is a dick but stopped acting like it and began playing some great football these guys need to do the same. I know I brought in football but their behaviour is very similar to footballers and if one of them can change then so can they. respect and behaviour are what I coach the youngsters first and foremost, play with controlled aggression and play within the laws, written and unwritten!!

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  • bunn
    1:02 AM 22/05/2014

    It's not a penalty offence, it's just comes under that same as charging too early, so it can be retaken if missed

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  • reality
    11:36 PM 21/05/2014

    Guest, first of all one is against the laws and the others isn't, so that in itself shows why one is acceptable and the other isn't. Secondly, charging the ball down gives the opposition team a fighting chance first of all to actually charge the ball down, and secondly to put pressure on the opposition kicker. Shouting at him doesn't give your team a chance to charge it down or put pressure on the kicker, it's just a way of distracting the kicker in the moment he's taking the kick, which I think everywhere in the western world (and beyond) is considered unsporting.

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  • 10:46 PM 21/05/2014

    Yes nobbery is universal

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  • 10:42 PM 21/05/2014

    Dude you didn't represent yourself as a new fan but as someone who came from an informed point of view. It could also be construed that you approached this situation like LO many new players to the game have done before you and many will after you. You assumed that you better than those before you and somewhat cockily decided to run sideways since there was no defender to your left or right and by god, why wouldn't I run that way, despite what the veterans have told me. And like the fresh eager young player out to revolutionize the game you turns your hips and momentum sideways and got thoroughly driven backwards and planted unceremoniously. But worry not! This game and this site welcomes newcomers as long as they are willing to get up again and keep fighting. Welcome to the game of rugby where if needed, you will be taught many lessons about respecting those who came before you.

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  • 45678
    10:07 PM 21/05/2014

    Ashton is a nob and continues to show behaviour not suited to a rugby field. However, how many supporters boo, wolf whistle kicks at goal. This is a pot kettle argument, with supporters trying to assume the moral high ground because they are not on the field! As for the swan diving, please scroll down to the first s15 highlights and I bet you will count more than one swan dive. Being a nob isn't exclusive to Ashton, the English or the NH

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  • ronan
    9:40 PM 21/05/2014

    ashtons a fucking knacker...... end of.....

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  • lockdown
    9:38 PM 21/05/2014

    Came here for this

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  • stroudos
    8:37 PM 21/05/2014

    Well, that's a cheap shot and dirty play, but I I wouldn't file it under stupid, arrogant or prickish...

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  • gonzoman
    6:39 PM 21/05/2014

    I think the big difference between a charge and a shout is that one requires some effort and athletic ability, and the other requires nothing but a pair of lungs and a set of vocal chords.

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  • gonzoman
    6:36 PM 21/05/2014

    Dear guest: before attempting what you described in the above post, please allow me to save you from looking a proper twat next time you attempt a conversion. Once the kicker starts his run up, players may charge; the players may continue to charge even if the kicker stops. The charging players can actually pick up the ball to prevent the kick, so while you're out there congratulating yourself on how clever you are some cheeky kick-charger will pinch the pill right off the tee (follow link for example). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8oC__AkpE

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  • fatprop
    6:31 PM 21/05/2014

    You can run at the kicker as soon as they make a movement towards the ball. If you done a fake run up you would still be moving towards the ball, they can just run up to you and pick up the ball. People only really run at players when it is an easy kick, if it is on the touch line then you don't normally bother as the kick is hard enough and it probably wont make a difference. Shouting at the player is not allowed and is against good sportsmanship

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  • browner
    6:28 PM 21/05/2014

    You can take the boy outta the North or Rugby league, but you can't take ...............

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  • skid986
    4:28 PM 21/05/2014

    It should have been nothing more than a penalty from the restart and a clip round the head from his skipper for putting the team on the back foot.

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  • reality
    4:06 PM 21/05/2014

    Are you joking? You can charge down as soon as the kicker starts his run-up to the ball. As finedisregard said, it happens rarely, but it happens. And it's not exactly tantamount to murder but if you stop caring about fair-play and respecting the other team then the sport gets pretty crap pretty quickly. I, like many others, like seeing gentlemanly play and not a bunch of w***ers who will stoop to any level in order to win. If the values of the game stop being cared about then why should anyone cared about the sport?

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  • eddie-g
    3:39 PM 21/05/2014

    I'm in two minds about this. Clearly, Ashton was a being a dick. But I can honestly say, as a kicker, what he did would be no more off-putting than having him try charge the kick down. But the bigger issue is that the RFU is saying, it will censure a player for being a dick. I guess if the RFU wants to weigh in on such things, it's going to get pretty busy pretty quickly. I mean, is every wind-up merchant on every side now on notice? For example, when I played, the opposition hooker was sledged on pretty much every line-out. Is that now out of bounds too? I guess I feel this is something that players could have sorted out for themselves. The RFU has it's role when it comes to dangerous play and the like, but not sure it needs to be actively policing lippy players.

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  • finedisregard
    2:36 PM 21/05/2014

    You're allowed to block a conversion. I've seen it happen more than twice.

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  • desertdragon
    2:16 PM 21/05/2014

    Oooh.....I think there may be a few shouts in French accents going out to Saracen's kickers next Saturday

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  • stroudos
    1:30 PM 21/05/2014

    Why do people always insist on dragging Owen Farrell into the debate whenever Chris Ashton does something retarded? Farrell had a bit of a tendency for petulant behaviour a while ago, (like when he was 19-20 years old FFS), but I haven't seen any arrogant, stupid or prickish behaviour from him in a long time.

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  • 1:25 PM 21/05/2014

    What a tool. Hope Lancaster continues to overlook him. When you consider the NZ squad ethos of no dickheads which has helped them become number one in the world, it's no surprise Ashton gets overlooked for England.

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  • stroudos
    1:24 PM 21/05/2014

    Nice one!

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  • cheyanqui
    1:21 PM 21/05/2014

    Danny Care and Chris Ashton being pests? Well I never

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  • obroersma
    1:11 PM 21/05/2014

    It's called respect and good sportmanship...

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  • cheyanqui
    12:39 PM 21/05/2014

    Dear Mr. Ashton classless cheating has no place in the game, especially if we didntt think of it first. Please, next time you think to shout, pleae stick one of these red pills in your mouth, it might help keep you quiet. Yours etc. Harlequins

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  • colombes
    12:38 PM 21/05/2014

    Oh dear...

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  • ollie
    12:32 PM 21/05/2014

    Class player but also an idiot. Needs to stop acting like a footballer and respect his opposition.

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