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Manu Tuilagi admits to assaulting police officers, won't be part of Rugby World Cup

Manu Tuilagi admits to assaulting police officers, won't be part of Rugby World Cup
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Manu Tuilagi will play no part in the Rugby World Cup, England coach Stuart Lancaster has said. The explosive England back has been convicted of three charges of assault on police officers, and one of criminal damage. A joint statement was released today.

According to the BBC, Tuilagi was arrested in Leicester city centre at 3am on Sunday, 26 April.

“He is understood to have grabbed a taxi driver by the throat and kicked the vehicle’s wing mirror before pushing two female police officers in the chest as they attempted to handcuff him.”

England Rugby and Leicester Tigers have taken action against Tuilagi following his conviction. Manu pleaded guilty at Leicester Magistrates this week and was ordered to pay the court a total of £6,205 in fines, compensation, charges and costs.

England Head Coach Stuart Lancaster has spoken to Manu and informed him that, in the light of his conduct and subsequent conviction, he will not be considered for selection for England’s Elite Playing Squads until January 2016.

“As role models and ambassadors for the game, the highest standards of behaviour are expected from every England player both on and off the fiel,” Lancaster explained.

“Having spoken to Manu, he understands and accepts both the seriousness of the offences to which he has pleaded guilty and the consequences of his behaviour to his club, country and the game as a whole.

“England will continue to liaise with Leicester Tigers and have every confidence that the club will continue to support Manu in the right way.”

Tuilagi himself said in a statement: “I take full responsibility for my actions and unreservedly apologise to all those involved in the incident, Leicester Tigers and England. It is something I deeply regret and I totally accept the sentence given by the court.

“The club and Stuart have been very supportive and I understand their sanctions too. I know as an England player the need to conduct myself as a good role model for the game. I am very disappointed because my actions have let so many people down and I can only hope for a future chance to prove myself again.”

Leicester Tigers Director of Rugby Richard Cockerill said: “Manu knows and accepts his responsibilities and has received a significant punishment in being excluded from the England squad and the club will also take internal disciplinary action.

“While we do not in any way condone his actions in this case, Manu is a young man who has grown up in the public eye and he is a good professional in a top-level environment.

“He always gives his time very generously to supporters, particularly young ones, wherever he goes, and fully understands the role that the fans have played in his career. We will continue to work closely with him on his return to full fitness and look forward to his return to the field in due course.”

He was banned for five weeks for punching England teammate Chris Ashton in May 2011, and later that year fined for jumping off a ferry in Auckland at the Rugby World Cup. So it’s not 23-year-old Tuilagi’s first run in with the law, however it is the most serious offence to date.

52 Comments

  • 2:09 PM 21/05/2015

    here lads, let's be honest, it's solved a selection headache for him....Joseph has his work cut out now :)

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  • drg
    7:10 PM 19/05/2015

    That's exactly the point I was trying to make - context.... Punching Chris Ashton in the face is far less punishable than pushing a police officer... Or even pushing past someone in the queue at McDonald's...

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  • danknapp
    12:14 PM 19/05/2015

    I wasn't arguing that punching is acceptable at all, but context is considered to be important in a court of law. I'm genuinely not arguing that punching on a rugby field is acceptable, although perhaps at times understandable. I'm explaining it, but not excusing it. I really wasn't condoning it. We live in a society where we don't want to see that sort of aggression in public, but to a certain extent allow rugby fields to be outlets for it. Therefore we celebrate behaviour on a rugby pitch which we wouldn't think of celebrating in the high street, for example tackling someone so hard that they struggle to get up. I was trying to make the point that it was this lack of context in Tuilagi's case which made it so much worse. That is not to say that punching on the field is bad, but I can completely understand it when it breaks out, but is also why I have huge amounts of respect for the individuals who can quickly shake hands and forget about it. I like the way they shake hands at the end of this - you wouldn't see that in the high street: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkaiwfLzAJU I also think the Tom Young's incident a year or so ago, when he got clocked in the head, was another good case in point.

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  • 4:03 PM 18/05/2015

    Solution= burgess who has even less dimension!

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  • 4:00 PM 18/05/2015

    Really? Then why do teams try to exploit mismatches, ie, forwards marking backs? Why? Because A) they are usually much bigger and not quite as quick b) forwards get thru a lot more work in a game and even if as quick as a back usually often gets beat due to fatigue. Works the opposite way as well. A prop should always pick and go at a smaller back covering the post.

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  • facepalm
    1:54 PM 18/05/2015

    Thankfully your personal desire to assault Ashton is not relevant, DrG.

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  • stroudos
    12:42 PM 18/05/2015

    Well I haven't seen him play in ages because he seems to have been injured for most of that 2.5 year period. (As such, I feel the world cup may be too soon for him anyway). I always felt his distribution was under-rated actually. Whether he's improved or deteriorated in that respect, who knows. Anyway, moot point and I really think the other options England have in the backs are as exciting if not more so.

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  • colombes
    12:05 PM 18/05/2015

    Like said before, -Worst of news for Tuilagi -Best one for England as Lancaster will may be able to impose a Bath trio (Ford-Eastmond-Jos eph) Hope it won't mean 'open door' to Burgess option, another brick in the wall.

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  • 45678
    9:32 AM 18/05/2015

    but that was 2 1/2 years ago and things change. If you are over dependent on one player to get the team moving forward, then you're a bit stuffed if that player is marshalled by the defence, especially if you are dumb enough to keep using the same attacking route Tuilagi has become predictable, his game hasn't changed. his offloading game and handling is pretty average tbh. he should look to someone like nonu as an example of someone who evolved his game for the better. After all he's a powerful brute, but most defences can tackle these days

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  • stroudos
    8:28 AM 18/05/2015

    Completely agree with you. I'm still hoping to see Ford-Eastmond-Joseph as the starting combo. Now they can focus on gelling the appropriate style of play. However, I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror and say "yes stroudos, you really are a contrarian prick" if I didn't quickly suggest that I don't think England would have beaten New Zealand at all, let alone by such a margin, in 2012 without Tuilagi playing that day.

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  • oliver
    7:53 AM 18/05/2015

    well put. and the same goes for Bastareaud I think.

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  • stroudos
    7:46 AM 18/05/2015

    *groan* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFcqGGMPc3k

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  • drg
    11:32 PM 17/05/2015

    The thing is Facepalm - I've never felt the need to shove a policewoman... Punching Chris Ashton in the face is something I have wanted to do on many an occasion... Surely there is some room for leniency on the Ashton thing due to provocation.. he just has a punchable character..

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  • drg
    11:27 PM 17/05/2015

    Oh, sorry my trolling skills are as good as yours - I guess I'll leave the title for biggest **** to you an Phill to continue to compete for.. :P

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  • drg
    11:23 PM 17/05/2015

    Quick google search: "Jack Nowell is a Corni-" enough said, I don't need to read any further. Brilliant player though!

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  • 45678
    11:05 PM 17/05/2015

    Take away the assault discussion and this is the best thing for the England squad imho. Go back to 2011 when England had a settled side and tuilagi was fudged in. It didn't work We have a better all round side at the moment and Joseph is a better option with a better all round game and more pace Tuilagi makes England predictable and they over rely on him to get over the gain line. It's the same as removing Jamie Roberts from the Welsh side. Ie good for both

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  • danknapp
    8:29 PM 17/05/2015

    Context, intention and outcome are all important, and frustratingly subjective in their application in each situation. You know that I'm one of the people who thinks that throwing punches on the pitch isn't ok, but I can at least understand that adrenalin plays a massive part. The players most likely to throw punches tend to be the forwards, but surely only because they have to prepare themselves for the most intense physical combat every game. It must be phenomenally hard to control that adrenalin. In this situation I think what makes it so bad is that there wasn't the same need for aggression. We intuitively know that this makes it worse. Another factor is outcome, which understandably annoys a lot of people when applied in a way which seems wrong, and yet outcome matters. We know that a drunk driver who kills people should be punished more than one who only drives into a ditch. Likewise with intent, which is clearly important. The desire to injure another is deemed to be wrong, and yet if we saw a punch which failed to connect we'd more likely laugh than not. It is therefore really easy to cast accusations of hypocrisy, which only makes me feel more and more sorry for the referees and officials who have custody of the game. The game is increasingly being pulled in a range of different directions as it grows in reach and appeal. More parents than ever watching their children play, more people than ever watching on tv, more people playing than ever, more money in the game than ever, more medical knowledge about the risks involved than ever... it's a nightmare. I think your point is that punching on the field is unacceptable, which I agree with, but it isn't easy to read dry humour or sarcasm on t'interweb. Sorry I made it into something a lot deeper.

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  • drg
    7:57 PM 17/05/2015

    At least we're all roughly on the same page. As I said, if I'd asked whether it would be ok for Tuilagi to play if he'd punched me, you or your mum in the face, the answers would vary.. throw in a sexual crime and at least we all understand that a crime is a crime...

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  • stroudos
    5:36 PM 17/05/2015

    Agree with (almost) all of that Dan - good point well made. The only exception - I wasn't even arguing a point. Just highlighting the comical use of language, (content, not grammar or syntax), in DrG's post. Reminded me of those sensationalist tabloid headings - you know the sort, "did this immigrant touch your child and steal your job?". Subtitle: "no, but he might!!".

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  • stroudos
    5:14 PM 17/05/2015

    Yeah, I'd already decided this was going to my last troll-baiting attempt on Big Bad Phill. Definitely going to call it a day now, what with Phill's annoying absence from the thread, DrG's inferior version above and the misunderstanding caused for non-regulars. I wonder in fact if the "guest" comments were actually posted by Big Bad Phill - if they were, I doff my cap to you sir, for anti-counter-troll-trollbaiting.

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  • finedisregard
    4:22 PM 17/05/2015

    You sure are getting a lot of mileage on that one.

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  • facepalm
    4:13 PM 17/05/2015

    I'm comparing the reactions of rugby fans to two specific incidents and showing the hypocrisy of it. So this third hypothetical situation you've dreamt up has no relevance to what I've said. It's not who the action is done to that's important here, it's where it takes place. Apparently many believe a rugby pitch is exempt from the rules of normal life. It's becoming far too easy to label someone a troll simply because you disagree with what they say.

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  • jeri
    2:48 PM 17/05/2015

    I beg to correct you. If Manu Tuilagi pushes two law enforcers on the rugby field he would still be treated just as harshly Hell, if he so much as grab a referee by the collar he'll probably be banned for a year. I'm not sure whether you really know about this sport called rugby or you're just trolling.

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  • facepalm
    2:11 PM 17/05/2015

    Land a series of brutal punches on the rugby pitch and you're a hero. Comit a less violent act off it and you're a scum bag. Gotta say the rugby community's moral compass spins more aimlessly than Jack Sparrow's.

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  • danknapp
    1:04 PM 17/05/2015

    I'm trying to work out what crime I can get Barritt falsly accused of.

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  • danknapp
    1:04 PM 17/05/2015

    Stroudos is trying to troll a troll in order to get more irritating troll comments, so we can work ourselves up into a rage about it. Stroudos is being a postmodern troll. Welcome to RugbyDump!

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  • danknapp
    1:01 PM 17/05/2015

    Jack Nowell looks like what gets printed out when the Police's Photofit computer catches a virus. He looks like a very badly photoshopped collage of four different people, none of whom have made decent hair choices.

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  • danknapp
    12:59 PM 17/05/2015

    Yep, he would, but rugby is just rugby. There are certain things that shouldn't be tolerated and, as such, action should be taken when they occur. Lancaster had no choice, not only due to his past treatment of Care, but also because he's a decent bloke. Lancaster may not be the most exciting tactician in the game, but he's a decent bloke who has never lost the schoolmaster ethos of coaching the whole person. It's not enough to want the best from players on the pitch, you also have to want the best from them as people. It doesn't mean you should shut the door to them eternally. Schools and sports teams should always be places where redemption is possible, but redemption starts with punishment imposed and reformation chosen. And I think both Stroudos and DrG are arguing the same thing, but DrG's syntax was a little off in his first post, cue hilarious misunderstandings. This is why grammar is important. Dan A Teacher

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  • notawelshdavies
    11:04 AM 17/05/2015

    All I would argue is that it's a home world cup, he's a world class player, and even if he doesn't start, he'd be a threat coming off the bench. If his crime was enough for him to be sacked, he would have been sacked. If his crime was enough for him to have gone to jail, he would have gone to jail. He's paid his fine and said he's sorry - whilst I agree that it was a overwhelming stupid thing for him to do, I don't see why Lancaster must also impose an extra punishment.

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  • drg
    10:38 AM 17/05/2015

    I suppose I was trying to draw a line and make it clear that a crime is a crime, therefore he'd certainly not be welcomed if it was a sexual based crime, so is there much difference in the labelling...kinda thing.. Of course if I turned around and said "Do you think Tuilagi should be allowed to play if he punched me in the face?" It sort of leaves a door the size of a barn door open and I couldn't do that to myself... BTW I already did the NH softies shtick... ;) #Newtrend

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  • dancarter
    10:36 AM 17/05/2015

    I wouldn't wish injury on anyone, but I think Lancaster will choose to start Burrell or Eastmond ahead of Barritt anyway.

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  • stroudos
    8:50 AM 17/05/2015

    I didn't say he shouldn't be banned. Just the way it suddenly escalated to sexual assault and kiddie-fiddling that made me laugh! BTW I already did the NH softies shtick... ;)

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  • stroudos
    8:46 AM 17/05/2015

    Don't worry mate, it was just meant as bait to troll one of the regular posters on here.

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  • drg
    2:13 AM 17/05/2015

    Of course I am docrugby. We have a member on here who is also from NZ that likes to talk about Warriors, Cous cous, Vegans and how slamming peoples heads into the turf after a big tackle is 'just part of the game'... Unfortunately it's one of those long running things. Stick around and you'll see more reference to it, but please don't read into our comments, I tried to make it as blatantly ridiculous as possible so that it's obvious to most that it's complete nonsense.

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  • docrugby
    1:06 AM 17/05/2015

    I am a New Zealander and you are stating nonsense.

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  • foxtrot
    10:26 PM 16/05/2015

    Ahh, I had a good chuckle on that one! :)

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  • drg
    5:48 PM 16/05/2015

    That's what worries me about Jack Nowell...

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  • drg
    5:36 PM 16/05/2015

    Well, you've done well to sort of omit the surrounding sentences and take my comment out of context - Very Daily Mail-esque... But anyway: Is it really though? If you can tell me where the line should be drawn between what a professional player can do in general public before it affects his professional career, then I'd be happy to rethink. Tuilagi pushes two women police officers... is the fact they're policewomen? women? public? My fiancee isn't a policewoman, but if Tuilagi pushed her, I'd be livid to see him then go on to represent England with no ill effects... We all joke about players that commit offences "oh it's ok, he went on twitter and apologised - no ban"... so really would you be happy to see Tuilagi just get his punishment from the courts, take to twitter to apologise and that'll be the end of it? Anyway, like I said, I didn't wish to snowball the whole thing and as I noted, they are different types of crimes, but as he is a Leicester, England and Rugby representative, I'd expect more from him. Plus we're all soft Poms... In NZ its called 'touching up a policewoman' it's the done thing amongst all rugby warriors, it's because they take their rugby so seriously...

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  • stroudos
    5:07 PM 16/05/2015

    True. The French even have a tight head prop who plays most of his games at outside centre.

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  • stroudos
    5:01 PM 16/05/2015

    DrG: I don't wish to snowball the whole thing, but had he been convicted of some sexual assault or possess indecent pictures of minors, should he really be allowed to play?Mate I have to say this is the strangest, most tangential strawman line of logic I've seen outside of the Daily Mail letters page...

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  • 4:50 PM 16/05/2015

    hooray! one down, several more morons to go....some who should be arrested on the field, not just off it....

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  • 10stonenumber10
    3:49 PM 16/05/2015

    Apart from set piece play, positions really don't matter. Burgess at 12 hitting like a 6, Armitage at 6 running like a 12.

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  • stroudos
    3:16 PM 16/05/2015

    Pah. All part and parcel of a night out with the boys. These northern hemisphere softies are trying to turn heavy drinking into an evening at the ballet, with prawn sandwiches and chilled Chablis in the interval too, no doubt.

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  • stroudos
    3:13 PM 16/05/2015

    And I think he's officially moved to the back row. Having said that I'd have him on the bench to cover both positions.

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  • welshosprey
    2:37 PM 16/05/2015

    Jumping off a ferry is hardly crime of the year.

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  • finedisregard
    1:57 PM 16/05/2015

    Any time you see a guy that has a) a rat tail or b) jheri curl you should keep them at arm's length because they are capable of very bad decisions. After I heard about this guy jumping off the ferry I knew he was a moron of the highest order.

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  • guy
    7:17 AM 16/05/2015

    Sorry to hear this, both because of the fact he will not feature in the World Cup as well as the reason for it. He is still young, I really hope he will get his act together and be a better man for it in the future. By the way: big thumbs up for Lancaster and the English management for the way this is being handled.

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  • danknapp
    5:55 AM 16/05/2015

    No, he's not done enough for club yet. Too soon.

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  • joshbristow
    2:30 AM 16/05/2015

    Sam Burgess' stocks just rose.

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  • danknapp
    10:37 PM 15/05/2015

    I completely agree. It is not acceptable to behave that way, regardless of your career, fame or wealth. Lancaster has done exactly the right thing. Tuilagi is just one player. Yes, he would have been a really good asset for the team, but this is unacceptable. Lancaster had previous form in this regard. He dropped Care when he got into trouble and Care said that it helped him realise what he needed to do to change. Tuilagi isn't the bright star in the sky and perhaps needs something of this magnitude to learn from. I'm disappointed as an England fan, but I wouldn't want someone who assaulted police officers to get a chance to represent his nation a few months later.

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  • drg
    10:26 PM 15/05/2015

    *clap.....clap......clap* Well done Manu... I don't really see why it's a travesty.. I don't wish to snowball the whole thing, but had he been convicted of some sexual assault or possess indecent pictures of minors, should he really be allowed to play? Granted it's a different style of crime, but as Lancaster said, he is a role model and an ambassador of the game. In 'real life' if you're gunning for a promotion in an office somewhere and something like this happens, if you're lucky enough to keep your job, you certainly would risk your chances of promotion.. so as sad as it is, Lancaster is 'keeping it real'...

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  • notawelshdavies
    8:32 PM 15/05/2015

    This is a travesty! If he is fit he has to be picked! Leaving out Armitage is bad enough, but this is on a whole new level.

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