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Scotland's Fraser Brown shown yellow for dangerous tackle on Elliot Daly

Scotland's Fraser Brown shown yellow for dangerous tackle on Elliot Daly
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Scotland hooker Fraser Brown was sin-binned in the opening minutes of the England and Scotland match this past weekend. Many felt the hooker was fortunate to come away with only the yellow, after he lifted and dumped Daly in a dangerous tackle.

In his decision for the yellow card, referee Mathieu Raynal explained the reason being that Daly had landed on “the top of his back”, thus he decided against the red card. 

Either way, the tackle insured that Scotland would be facing an uphill battle from the very start. Given the magnitude of the match and despite some genuine injury concerns, it seemed Scotland had a chance of making some serious waves with a good showing.

The Glasgow Warriors hooker’s mistake was not something the visitors could afford though, and unfortunately this was but a small sign of the match to come, as England went on to hammer Scotland 61-21 to retain the Calcutta Cup and the Six Nations title.

Brown is not out of the woods yet, as he’s been cited for the tackle and will face a disciplinary hearing today (Tuesday) that could potentially see him miss their final match, against Italy.

As for Daly, he will continue to be monitored throughout the week for a suspected concussion that forced him from the field before half time.

UPDATE: The disciplinary committee found that the act of foul play would have not have warranted a red card, and so the citing complaint was not upheld and no sanction was imposed. Brown is free to play.

Full details:
Fraser Brown, appeared before an independent Disciplinary Committee, having been cited by an independent Citing Commissioner.  The player accepted that he had committed an act of foul play but argued that it had not warranted a red card.

The Disciplinary Committee, chaired by Jean-Philippe Lachaume (France), alongside Rhian Williams (Wales) and David Martin (Ireland), having reviewed footage of the incident and all other evidence, as well as hearing submissions and testimony from the player and his representatives, considered the tackle to have been dangerous, and therefore contrary to Law 10.4(e).

The Disciplinary Committee, however, found that the act of foul play would have not have warranted a red card, and so the citing complaint was not upheld and no sanction was imposed. (The Disciplinary Committee also considered whether or not the player, in carrying out the tackle, had infringed Law 10.4(j), but found that not all of the necessary elements for foul play under that law had been present). The player is therefore able to resume playing immediately. 

Law 10.4(e)A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously.
Law 10.4(j)Lifting a player from the ground and dropping or driving that player into the ground whilst that player’s feet are still off the ground such that the player’s head and/or upper body come into contact with the ground is dangerous play.

Credit: Just Rugby 2017

20 Comments

  • stroudos
    10:24 PM 15/03/2017

    Almost, but he didn't execute the breakfall correctly and really could have. In fact, on your video one needs to watch beyond 3:50 where he explains what not to do. In particular tuck your chin in to your chest to avoid the head whipping backwards and smacking the ground.

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  • heavyhooker
    3:40 PM 15/03/2017

    10stone, totally agree. I tried to get my son to do Akido and Jui Jitsu to learn how to use other people's mass to break a tackle and make a tackle. He did not last long, but what I saw in the classes it would be a great benefit; especially when you see some small fry take down a big guy. And the fall techniques would sure save a lot of collar bone breaks, shoulder dislocations and save your neck.

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  • rugbydump
    1:01 PM 15/03/2017

    No sanction, Brown free to play. Updated details in the article

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  • stroudos
    9:09 AM 15/03/2017

    I refer the honourable gentleman to the caveats clearly stated in my original comment:"Easy for us to say, having never been smashed in an international test match" "I accept this is a lot easier for me to sit here and type than to do during an international test match..."

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  • drg
    12:23 AM 15/03/2017

    Yup, me, Stroudos and 10 are a gymnastics trio, we're gunning for an RD team in the next Olympics.. gymnastics, ballet and cous cous eating...

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  • drg
    12:20 AM 15/03/2017

    Only the summary in that he's been cleared...No idea about why, what, who, when etc... Maybe he claimed he was framed...

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  • 10stonenumber10
    10:06 PM 14/03/2017

    I'm no Bruce Lee, but I have been banging on about the benefits of martial arts within rugby for as far back as I can remember. If someone lifts you, most people panic and try to look at the floor and gauge which way is up. You have got ample time to wrap an arm of your own around the tackler, it also gives you a leverage point to move into a breakfall/less ouch position If players can milk a hit, twist themselves into a spear tackle deliberately (nothing to do with this hit, more of a Habana thing), they can take one properly. Contact intelligence.

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  • jonnyenglish
    8:46 PM 14/03/2017

    So, I don't know if any of you guys have done Judo before, but what Daly does is almost, almost a breakfall (known as a Ukemi). See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n_Qjeia2n8 at around 3:09 to around 3:50. If you don't believe me try it. it's remarkably effective.

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  • heavyhooker
    8:43 PM 14/03/2017

    Wow. You three guys must be fantastic gymnasts James Bond-esk masters to make all those split second decision followed by instantaneous actions in the second and a half the hit took, just after offloading to a teammate. I would love to see you play and do all that while being pile driven by 130kg gorilla.

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  • jonnyenglish
    8:40 PM 14/03/2017

    I'd actually be really keen to hear what Brown has to say about it to be honest. Does anyone know about the citing yet?

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  • finedisregard
    7:21 PM 14/03/2017

    That is a great tackle. That's what you get for running into contact high Rugby is going down the tubes.

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  • drg
    5:21 PM 14/03/2017

    As you guys both said, that's the best way to do it, also means if you brace enough you get to stick a knee into his stomach/jewels...Simply flopping around like a wet celery isn't going to do anyone any good...

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  • drg
    5:19 PM 14/03/2017

    See it's weird, you know the recent fox TV interview with a try scorer, that is where if we could get an immediate interview with brown, it could yield some interesting information... ...Was he shaking his head because he felt it wasn't that bad? Was it because he was angry at himself so his head shake was at himself? Did he genuinely think there was nothing wrong with it? I mean surely he saw it himself on the big screen, like you stated, it was very close to being head/neck but it WAS back first... But either way, like I think maybe Exeter coach mentioned a couple weeks ago when he had a player sent off (for a high tackle), 'we shouldn't be arguing about fractions, we should just avoid it altogether' (paraphrased). Arguing the guy landed a back hair JUST before his neck is what you should be doing when appealing your ban, not what you should be doing to a ref to tell him your indiscretion was JUST on the border of good....

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  • 10stonenumber10
    12:55 PM 14/03/2017

    Good point on absorbing the tackle. If you hold on like a Koala, you hit the floor, maybe get winded, that is that. Tackler is less likely to drive you into the floor as the only thing beyond your back/arse, is the top of their head, and that goes into the floor first. If you fall away from the tackler, not only do you hit the floor, you get a second impact of them landing on top of you too. This is where twisting injuries happen, when a player lands awkwardly then gets pancaked. Someone is going to hit their head off the floor. It is just a matter of where. After all the media madness magnifying the new laws, he didn't do so bad. He hit Daly square in the mid-section, great height of hit... then he switched back to 15+ years playing without that law, and lifted.

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  • stroudos
    12:29 PM 14/03/2017

    On another note, Mr Ten and I were on here the other day explaining how to protect yourself in the event of a lifting tackle. Easy for us to say, having never been smashed in an international test match, but I can't help thinking that Daly could have avoided being as badly injured here. Pause around 0:22 - if it were me, I'd be gripping on to both of Brroon's shoulders like they were the hull of a sinking ship. This would reduce the actual tipping motion, and certainly the velocity at which I was heading groundwards. At the moment I actually made contact with the ground, I'd shift my weight onto one side and throw out an arm in a judo-style "breakfall", thereby minimising the impact. If Daly had done that, whilst it would still hurt - Brroon inevitably landing directly on top of him - I reckon he could have avoided the concussion altogether. I accept this is a lot easier for me to sit here and type than to do during an international test match...

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  • stroudos
    12:12 PM 14/03/2017

    Do you know what, as the tackler these tackles are actually very straightforward. Watch Brroon's left elbow here - pointing upwards, clearly indicating a tipping motion. Keep your elbow down and you don't tip the bloke. It's as simple as basic table manners - chew your food with your mouth closed and keep your elbows down.

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  • jonnyenglish
    12:06 PM 14/03/2017

    Tell me what pisses me off more. Instead of standing up and admitting fault, Brown walks off shaking his head! You know what the laws are, you know you broke them, stop being a knob and take it like a professional!

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  • jonnyenglish
    12:04 PM 14/03/2017

    Arguably should've been a red. In my mind it's a harsh Red, or a soft yellow. Bit of an odd one. Hope Daly is fully recovered soon. I think these kind of tackles shouldn't be shown again in slow motion, saying "he landed on the top of his back first" is, whilst technically correct, completely missing the point that his neck and head were hit into the ground a fraction of a second later.

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  • colombes
    11:49 AM 14/03/2017

    "Forward pass" #couscous

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  • 11:05 AM 14/03/2017

    That was not clever from him, especially at the beginning of the game, knowing that the English always try to score in the first minutes, and when you know your team is not built with the optimum cast. But that's "just a game", and I hope Scotland with keep their heads up because apart form this, their 6 Nations is pretty good, with a lot of exciting plays and a clever way to bypass their lack of power.

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